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PREVIOUSLY

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- Are you drinking?
- Gosh, it's lemonade.

3
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They are concerned
that you join with the moderates.

4
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What we achieved had limitations.

5
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How many bombs and no one listened?
Nothing changed.

6
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There must have been an order
for what they did to mom.

7
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Who was the brigade commander?
of Belfast in December 1972?

8
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<i>I will never know Gerry's real motives.</i>

9
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<i>Was it an act of conscience?</i>

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<i>Or was he trying to save his skin?</i>

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Did anyone see him enter?

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You're paranoid, Gerry.

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<i>But one thing is certain:
I didn't approve of his new friends.</i>

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How are you, father?

15
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Well, I've been better.

16
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Do you understand that they will kill me for this?

17
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Well you managed to stay alive
until now. You are a survivor.

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Well, some colleagues believe
that my desire to negotiate

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It is synonymous with betrayal.

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Brendan.

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Brendan suffered a lot.

22
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Yes.

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The IRA is failing
what they believe they are achieving.

24
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To some extent, they must know.

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We must stop killing our people.

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Honestly, all they accomplished
It was murdering my voters.

27
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I can't apologize forever.

28
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This will cost me my friendship
of very dear people.

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Peace is not achieved without a cost.

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Is this all?

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That's all.

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Good luck, Alec.

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Bless you.

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<i>Gerry had to be careful.</i>

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<i>In that envelope
there was the fragile seed of peace,</i>

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<i>delivered by the Catholic Church
to Gerry's political rivals.</i>

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Why did you come to the United States?

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I came to have peace talks.
I am a negotiator.

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SEARCH
Name - ADAMS, Gerry

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EXCLUSION LIST
Do not grant entry

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- You must come with me.
- Is it possible that there is an error?

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I think I have an exemption, well,
of the president.

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AUTHORIZED ENTRY

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<i>The peace process would lead to Gerry Adams
to achieve something unimaginable

45
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<i>for a humble guy from Ballymurphy.</i>

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<i>I would take him to the United States.</i>

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Welcome to the United States.
Good luck with the peace talks.

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Thank you.

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DON'T SAY ANYTHING

50
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And we return to participant H.

51
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- What year are we in?
- Could you take us to April 1994?

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Heavens.

53
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How did you feel?

54
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Anxious

55
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<i>I had moved to Dublin.
My marriage was over.</i>

56
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<i>I felt like I was out of my mind.</i>

57
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I'm sorry. We refill this prescription
two weeks ago.

58
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I know. Sorry, it's my fault. I...

59
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Gosh, this is embarrassing.

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I was having a glass of wine,
relaxing a little, and accidentally...

61
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It was a moment of awkwardness.
I dropped the bottle in the sink.

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I talked to the doctor,
He is a true angel,

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- and he solved it quickly.
- Yes.

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I understand, ma'am.

65
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It's just that in the new recipe

66
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- the doctor's signature does not match.
- No?

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Doctor's signature

68
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This is from today,
and this one from two weeks ago.

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That's strange.

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In this type of orders
we are forced to review the signatures.

71
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Of course. Of course, they must do it.
Thank goodness you did.

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Because Valium
It is a controlled substance.

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Of course.
It's just that I saw the doctor sign it.

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- So what do you think happened?
- Maybe you could tell me.

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I'm not a street drug addict.
I have a disease.

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- I didn't mean...
- I would never forge a signature.

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OK. Good. But I still can't...

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Well, that's unacceptable.

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Let me talk to the pharmacist,
is it okay?

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If they're going to treat me like a criminal,
I'll look for another pharmacy.

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I...

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TALBOT PHARMACY

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- What's wrong?
- <i>What are you doing?</i>

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Nothing.

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<i>I'm sorry to bother you,
but you must come to Belfast.</i>

86
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There's a meeting at the Felons Club.
Looks like he did it.

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- Who?
- <i>Gerry.</i>

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There will be a big announcement.
They talk about ending the war.

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<i>Dowries, you must come.</i>

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<i>Living in the north, you were always
near the end of the war.</i>

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<i>That was our own purgatory.</i>

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<i>If they had told me
which would take more than 20 years,</i>

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<i>I don't know if I would have taken a gun
in the first place.</i>

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Nice hat.

95
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Are you sleeping with Boris Yeltsin?

96
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We don't all dress like Aunt Bridie.
But she has blindness as an excuse.

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I like this set.
I bought it on sale.

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Good. Let's pray and wait
let there be good news.

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How is the matter?
Did the British leave?

100
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No, we don't know.

101
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The war can end in two ways:
one side surrenders or a deal is negotiated.

102
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I know Gerry, he doesn't give up.
His ego couldn't take it.

103
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Don't know. I saw it in Larry King.
Apparently he's a damn pacifist now.

104
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I had to say those things.
Only then would they give him a visa.

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I always knew that your generation
would be the one to do it.

106
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But I didn't think it would be someone like him.

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Hello.

108
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Mackers, how's your son?

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- I'm awake most of the night.
- Shit.

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- Did you try putting whiskey on his gums?
-Dolours Price, it is an honor.

111
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I'm kidding. You don't have to kiss her.

112
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Pains, look.

113
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Is that...?

114
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Yes, it's Brendan Hughes.

115
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He looks very thin.

116
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He lives in Divis Flats.

117
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One, two.

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Attention.

119
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I have a direct statement
from the headquarters.

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"We believe that the opportunity has been created
for a just and lasting peace".

121
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-Shouldn't Gerry be here?
- "Therefore,

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the IRA leadership decided
that from this midnight

123
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there will be a total cessation
of all military operations.

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In exchange,

125
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the british promised
that Sinn Féin

126
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will be treated
like any other political party.

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The British Government announced
his commitment to dialogue with Sinn Féin

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and address other issues,

129
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like the reduction
of the British military presence".

130
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"Reduction"? Have they been reducing it?

131
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What the hell does that mean?
Are the British leaving or not?

132
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"While
peace talks continue,

133
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a crucial first step
It will be the disarmament process..."

134
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"Disarmament"?

135
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Take my balls apart.
They won't take our weapons.

136
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No deal until they leave.
That's the position.

137
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It has always been the position.

138
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Let's accept the truth.
War doesn't work.

139
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There must be concessions.

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- It's giving up.
- Gerry ruined us and you know it!

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- Where is?
- Thirty years of struggle.

142
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Thirty years and we're back to the beginning.

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"Let us remain united as comrades..."

144
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Fuck that.

145
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Friends, calm down.

146
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It is the first step of a long process.

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Dark, what do you think?

148
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I think it's over. He sold us.

149
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<i>I was six when my dad told me
that he had killed a man.</i>

150
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<i>It was in a bombing raid in Coventry.</i>

151
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Dad...

152
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WANTED - for murder
and torture of Irish prisoners

153
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<i>I was horrified.</i>

154
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I remember he told me:

155
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"No.

156
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<i>Everything will be fine
because we are at war.</i>

157
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When we have a united Ireland,
When we achieve that glorious result,

158
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"It will all be worth it."

159
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But what have we achieved?

160
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with what Gerry Adams has caused?

161
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What did my dad achieve...

162
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besides death?

163
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We didn't achieve anything.

164
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Not a shit.

165
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I can't believe he sent his lackey.

166
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When has he done something himself?

167
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Did he rob a bank, lead a team?

168
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I don't think he's ever fired a gun.

169
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It was always going to end like this.
With him at the damn top.

170
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Damn coward.

171
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Well,
At least we can be British now.

172
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Rot you.

173
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Do you ever feel like it was all for nothing?

174
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Yes, that's great.
Don't worry, Frankie.

175
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Well, how did they take it?

176
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Most people... It's Christmas.

177
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They get drunk in the streets.

178
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do you know

179
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If you can make this work,
Will they give you a Nobel Prize?

180
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You can put the statuette
over the toilet.

181
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It's a medal.

182
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In the Nobel Prize they give you a medal.

183
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Clear.

184
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Well, you can put it wherever you want.

185
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And the extremists?
How worried should we be?

186
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There is a small group of individuals.
Small but noisy.

187
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They are less enthusiastic.

188
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We reinforce your security team
just in case.

189
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And Brendan Hughes?

190
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He apparently left the meeting.
He didn't talk much.

191
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I'm sorry. I know they are close.

192
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Well, these people are hard-headed.
It's more or less what I expected.

193
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Mr. Adams? Sorry.

194
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-The vice president is about to arrive.
- Very good.

195
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Yo-Yo Ma gives a concert at the Rose Garden.

196
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It's a little delayed.

197
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Well, if you ever see Mr. Ma,
Could I tell you that I am your fan?

198
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Of course.

199
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Do you think they'll kill me for this?

200
00:13:56,856 --> 00:13:58,359
It's not too late to back out.

201
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I will support you in whatever you decide.

202
00:14:02,202 --> 00:14:03,999
Let them rot. They are guilty.

203
00:14:10,390 --> 00:14:15,195
Welcome to <i>Ulster Talk Radio.</i>
We're live with Helen McConville.

204
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She is the daughter of a woman
that disappeared without a trace

205
00:14:19,078 --> 00:14:20,540
almost 25 years ago.

206
00:14:21,083 --> 00:14:23,715
<i>His name was Jean McConville.</i>

207
00:14:25,178 --> 00:14:26,767
<i>I remember it like it was yesterday.</i>

208
00:14:26,807 --> 00:14:29,396
Ten of them came home
and they took my mother.

209
00:14:29,898 --> 00:14:33,406
Do you know who they were
the ones who took your mother?

210
00:14:34,201 --> 00:14:37,501
Yes. They were members
of the Irish Republican Army.

211
00:14:38,503 --> 00:14:43,266
And why did you decide to break your silence
after so many years?

212
00:14:44,226 --> 00:14:48,654
The IRA wants to talk about a just peace
and durable. I couldn't stand it.

213
00:14:49,782 --> 00:14:51,119
What is fair about this?

214
00:14:52,706 --> 00:14:54,377
And justice for my mother?

215
00:15:08,495 --> 00:15:10,127
I hope it wasn't a mistake.

216
00:15:10,167 --> 00:15:13,383
No. You were brilliant.
I'm proud of you.

217
00:15:19,816 --> 00:15:22,450
- Hello?
- <i>Really, Helen? On the radio?</i>

218
00:15:22,490 --> 00:15:26,794
- Maybe you don't mind being shot.
- Michael, they won't shoot anyone.

219
00:15:26,834 --> 00:15:28,925
They can't do anything.
There is a ceasefire.

220
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What if it breaks?

221
00:15:30,009 --> 00:15:33,811
<i>These people are upon us.
I saw one at McDonald's, for God's sake.</i>

222
00:15:33,852 --> 00:15:35,106
Did you tell them something?

223
00:15:35,147 --> 00:15:37,569
No. I kept my mouth shut.

224
00:15:39,241 --> 00:15:44,339
Helen, I worked very hard to get through this,
to feel normal.

225
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I'll have to call you later.

226
00:15:49,475 --> 00:15:51,355
Helen, come back inside.

227
00:15:56,910 --> 00:15:58,040
Helen McConville?

228
00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,420
- Yes.
- I heard you on the radio.

229
00:16:01,338 --> 00:16:02,592
You were good.

230
00:16:03,469 --> 00:16:04,513
Thank you.

231
00:16:05,140 --> 00:16:10,528
My son, Eamon, is also missing.
In July 1975.

232
00:16:11,990 --> 00:16:13,495
His name was Eamon Molloy.

233
00:16:14,831 --> 00:16:16,502
I think there are more of us.

234
00:16:19,802 --> 00:16:21,934
What you did was lovely.

235
00:16:21,974 --> 00:16:23,813
- Yes.
- Thank you, Mr. Adams.

236
00:16:24,981 --> 00:16:28,366
- There's something on TV you should watch.
<i>- We are the families of the Disappeared.</i>

237
00:16:30,036 --> 00:16:32,419
<i>We are nine families,
and each one has a loved one</i>

238
00:16:32,459 --> 00:16:36,594
<i>who was kidnapped, murdered
and secretly buried by the IRA.</i>

239
00:16:37,304 --> 00:16:42,025
<i>My mom, Jean McConville,
She was kidnapped on December 7, 1972.</i>

240
00:16:44,281 --> 00:16:46,411
<i>Everyone knows who executed these orders.</i>

241
00:16:47,664 --> 00:16:52,092
<i>We know it. Sinn Féin knows this.
The dogs on the street know it.</i>

242
00:16:53,304 --> 00:16:57,815
<i>I have a question for the leaders
of Sinn Féin and for Mr Adams:</i>

243
00:16:59,528 --> 00:17:01,115
<i>where are they buried?</i>

244
00:17:02,452 --> 00:17:03,790
<i>Where is my mom?</i>

245
00:17:03,830 --> 00:17:05,167
Schedule a meeting.

246
00:17:20,581 --> 00:17:24,008
Mr. Adams!
How does this influence the peace process?

247
00:17:24,048 --> 00:17:27,601
- Back, please,
- Will the negotiations continue?

248
00:17:27,641 --> 00:17:30,024
We progress. A deal is possible.

249
00:17:30,064 --> 00:17:31,819
Now, the most important thing is

250
00:17:31,860 --> 00:17:35,078
May we all do our best
to give comfort to these families.

251
00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,917
- Excuse me.
- That's enough. Thank you.

252
00:17:44,141 --> 00:17:45,144
He has a nice house.

253
00:17:52,120 --> 00:17:53,122
Escón?

254
00:18:12,003 --> 00:18:17,058
My grandmother used to make scones like these.
We called them flying cemeteries.

255
00:18:17,768 --> 00:18:19,314
I need to find my mom.

256
00:18:24,326 --> 00:18:25,329
Yes.

257
00:18:26,707 --> 00:18:28,379
An injustice was committed.

258
00:18:29,131 --> 00:18:32,514
I encourage anyone with information.
to share it.

259
00:18:34,727 --> 00:18:35,899
Okay, but...

260
00:18:35,939 --> 00:18:37,652
We will work together on this.

261
00:18:38,822 --> 00:18:42,122
- I'm not interested in politics.
- It's understandable.

262
00:18:46,007 --> 00:18:48,555
Why did they say
that my mom was a snitch?

263
00:18:53,150 --> 00:18:55,115
Well, I never said that.

264
00:18:55,155 --> 00:18:56,492
The IRA said it.

265
00:18:58,288 --> 00:19:02,467
And I accept that you can discuss that judgment
and reject that conclusion.

266
00:19:02,507 --> 00:19:05,640
He should have told them not to spread lies.
I could have done something.

267
00:19:09,023 --> 00:19:13,786
Was your mother kidnapped?
in December of '72?

268
00:19:15,122 --> 00:19:17,463
December 7, 1972. That's correct.

269
00:19:17,503 --> 00:19:21,472
Helen, I was in prison in December.
He had been hospitalized.

270
00:19:22,976 --> 00:19:27,362
I give you my word.
I had nothing to do with this.

271
00:19:32,542 --> 00:19:34,922
You lost your mom recently, right?

272
00:19:35,925 --> 00:19:37,345
Yes, a few years ago.

273
00:19:37,930 --> 00:19:41,188
Do you visit his grave? Say some prayers?

274
00:19:42,483 --> 00:19:43,486
Yes.

275
00:19:44,488 --> 00:19:46,203
So, you understand.

276
00:19:46,243 --> 00:19:50,630
We need to bury her.
Otherwise this will never end.

277
00:19:52,718 --> 00:19:55,475
- I understand what happened...
- I don't think so.

278
00:19:58,065 --> 00:20:02,576
Do you know why we never left Belfast?
I wanted to leave. Seamus too.

279
00:20:03,078 --> 00:20:04,831
But I thought: "What if...?

280
00:20:06,503 --> 00:20:08,090
What if he comes back?"

281
00:20:11,306 --> 00:20:14,481
Not knowing, Mr. Adams,
It's what destroys you.

282
00:20:14,982 --> 00:20:19,744
Even when a boy
showed up at our house

283
00:20:20,413 --> 00:20:23,671
with the wallet and the wedding ring
from my mom,

284
00:20:24,924 --> 00:20:26,429
I continued to have hope.

285
00:20:27,598 --> 00:20:28,935
That's what he did.

286
00:20:30,397 --> 00:20:31,399
Helen.

287
00:20:33,028 --> 00:20:34,867
I can accept that she is dead.

288
00:20:35,952 --> 00:20:36,955
She is dead.

289
00:20:39,545 --> 00:20:42,135
But I can't accept
not having a body to cry.

290
00:20:43,221 --> 00:20:44,933
I need to see her and for this to end.

291
00:20:50,197 --> 00:20:53,956
I'm doing everything humanly possible
to find his mother.

292
00:20:55,460 --> 00:20:58,595
But we must remember
that this is a delicate moment.

293
00:20:58,635 --> 00:21:00,308
Peace is very fragile.

294
00:21:00,348 --> 00:21:02,898
We must be careful
with what we say and...

295
00:21:02,938 --> 00:21:04,778
I was careful for 20 years.

296
00:21:04,818 --> 00:21:08,621
I'm just saying it would be unfortunate
for all of us

297
00:21:08,661 --> 00:21:11,668
if something were in danger
the peace process.

298
00:21:12,169 --> 00:21:15,679
Do you want me to shut up? Find my mom.

299
00:21:18,937 --> 00:21:20,942
There is already an investigation underway.

300
00:21:22,362 --> 00:21:23,365
You have my word.

301
00:21:38,904 --> 00:21:43,875
- We must start an investigation.
- Uh-huh. A real one?

302
00:21:59,164 --> 00:22:00,626
Shit.

303
00:22:10,484 --> 00:22:13,994
- Hello, Frankie.
-Dolours Price, how are you?

304
00:22:14,996 --> 00:22:17,377
- Do you want tea?
- I'd love to.

305
00:22:18,964 --> 00:22:21,555
Look how the other half lives, right?

306
00:22:21,595 --> 00:22:25,857
I guess I should congratulate you.

307
00:22:26,985 --> 00:22:29,240
I heard that they even stopped
the shots to the knees.

308
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,670
- And all the other shots.
-And how is our Gerry?

309
00:22:33,710 --> 00:22:35,255
Damn Gerry Adams!

310
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:37,762
He's fine.

311
00:22:38,346 --> 00:22:40,936
Yes. I heard you have a deal
to write a book.

312
00:22:41,814 --> 00:22:44,195
That guy is completely innocent.

313
00:22:45,490 --> 00:22:47,914
But you still smell like Semtex, Frank.

314
00:22:47,954 --> 00:22:49,541
Well, nobody is perfect.

315
00:22:51,213 --> 00:22:55,223
Look, it turns out that Gerry

316
00:22:56,518 --> 00:22:58,064
needs your help.

317
00:23:00,779 --> 00:23:01,823
My help?

318
00:23:03,410 --> 00:23:05,457
Why would you need my help?

319
00:23:06,544 --> 00:23:09,885
We started an investigation
about the Disappeared.

320
00:23:11,139 --> 00:23:13,185
We wanted to ask you about Jean McConville.

321
00:23:13,812 --> 00:23:16,487
-Who is Jean McConville?
- Shut up!

322
00:23:16,527 --> 00:23:17,655
Go upstairs.

323
00:23:19,451 --> 00:23:21,458
Gerry ask me about that?

324
00:23:21,498 --> 00:23:26,343
Calm down. We are asking everyone.
To everyone who was there at that time.

325
00:23:27,763 --> 00:23:30,855
You have no idea
Where could the widow be?

326
00:23:31,356 --> 00:23:32,611
No, no idea.

327
00:23:32,651 --> 00:23:35,076
And you can't think of who would know?

328
00:23:35,116 --> 00:23:38,501
In fact,
I know who you should be talking to.

329
00:23:38,541 --> 00:23:39,753
Well, with whom?

330
00:23:41,006 --> 00:23:43,263
With fucking Gerry Adams.

331
00:23:43,303 --> 00:23:47,148
Sorrows,
We must all tell the same story.

332
00:23:47,188 --> 00:23:49,527
Do you know what I can't understand?

333
00:23:50,363 --> 00:23:53,412
How come your boss, my friend,

334
00:23:54,248 --> 00:23:57,757
without anyone's help,
he returned this country to the English

335
00:23:58,425 --> 00:24:02,352
and then he convinced smart guys
like you that they have won.

336
00:24:08,492 --> 00:24:09,495
OK.

337
00:24:15,050 --> 00:24:17,223
Dolors, you've been talking too much.

338
00:24:18,309 --> 00:24:20,355
Be more careful with what you say.

339
00:24:21,191 --> 00:24:23,613
And I believed
that we had handed over the weapons.

340
00:24:24,783 --> 00:24:27,875
Well, most of them.

341
00:24:29,671 --> 00:24:32,553
Anyway, I will continue investigating.

342
00:24:34,475 --> 00:24:36,188
Don't get into trouble.

343
00:24:42,996 --> 00:24:44,876
<i>Gerry made it very clear.</i>

344
00:24:45,796 --> 00:24:48,803
He told it to the press
and his companions.

345
00:24:49,806 --> 00:24:51,811
He even told the victims.

346
00:24:52,646 --> 00:24:54,860
For peace in Ireland,

347
00:24:55,821 --> 00:24:57,492
you have to pay a price.

348
00:24:58,703 --> 00:24:59,705
And which one is it?

349
00:25:00,667 --> 00:25:01,752
Our silence.

350
00:25:09,355 --> 00:25:10,567
They found a body.

351
00:25:11,444 --> 00:25:12,697
Eamon Molloy.

352
00:25:14,075 --> 00:25:15,370
It was another informant.

353
00:25:17,041 --> 00:25:20,508
They say he was the culprit of your arrest
in '73.

354
00:25:28,905 --> 00:25:32,915
His wife, Kate,
You must be going through a hard time.

355
00:25:33,667 --> 00:25:34,920
Did anyone visit her?

356
00:25:37,802 --> 00:25:39,056
I'll visit her later.

357
00:25:43,734 --> 00:25:45,114
And Jean McConville?

358
00:25:45,154 --> 00:25:47,746
There are rumors that he is in Dundalk,
near the sea.

359
00:25:47,786 --> 00:25:49,542
The landscape has changed.

360
00:25:49,582 --> 00:25:53,300
I can't tell the family
that I can't find it. Keep investigating.

361
00:26:05,540 --> 00:26:08,257
<i>BEFORE DAWN</i>
Autobiography

362
00:26:08,297 --> 00:26:09,298
Thank you.

363
00:26:14,646 --> 00:26:16,651
Look, he mentioned us.

364
00:26:18,196 --> 00:26:23,084
- Yeah? What does it say?
- That we took him home that time.

365
00:26:24,630 --> 00:26:27,303
Look, do me a favor.

366
00:26:28,473 --> 00:26:29,476
Let it go.

367
00:26:32,316 --> 00:26:33,319
Here you go.

368
00:26:43,469 --> 00:26:44,472
I have a question.

369
00:26:47,020 --> 00:26:49,444
Didn't you mean to mention the bombing?

370
00:26:49,484 --> 00:26:52,701
- Sorry?
- The London job.

371
00:26:53,954 --> 00:26:55,542
We planned it together.

372
00:26:56,878 --> 00:27:00,973
- I was sitting on the arm of your chair.
- It's not the time or the place.

373
00:27:01,013 --> 00:27:04,397
You recommended that I go by plane.

374
00:27:05,776 --> 00:27:06,862
Do you remember it?

375
00:27:08,031 --> 00:27:11,540
I regretted that.
Did I ever tell you?

376
00:27:12,208 --> 00:27:14,758
That made everyone angry.

377
00:27:14,798 --> 00:27:17,766
Well, we have different memories.

378
00:27:17,806 --> 00:27:19,268
I did things for you.

379
00:27:21,148 --> 00:27:22,401
Not just the bombing.

380
00:27:23,696 --> 00:27:25,952
Because I thought they meant something.

381
00:27:28,542 --> 00:27:32,471
For what you have achieved,
I wouldn't have changed a good breakfast.

382
00:27:32,511 --> 00:27:33,598
Very good, Dolores.

383
00:27:33,639 --> 00:27:38,235
I mean, was it all for this?
For a book and a big house?

384
00:27:38,275 --> 00:27:41,494
Is this why I went to prison for eight years?

385
00:27:41,534 --> 00:27:43,831
Did my aunt lose both eyes for this?

386
00:27:45,335 --> 00:27:47,715
- Sign it.
- Dolores, that's enough.

387
00:27:49,010 --> 00:27:50,264
I want you to sign it.

388
00:27:53,313 --> 00:27:55,277
Dedicate it to my Aunt Bridie.

389
00:28:04,843 --> 00:28:08,393
Dolores, is everything okay?

390
00:28:11,693 --> 00:28:13,197
He won't sign my book.

391
00:28:15,494 --> 00:28:18,711
It's a hard time for many people,

392
00:28:19,964 --> 00:28:22,846
and the changes can be traumatic.

393
00:28:23,431 --> 00:28:26,314
If you feel bad,
We have people you can talk to...

394
00:28:28,653 --> 00:28:29,656
Rot you.

395
00:28:33,874 --> 00:28:38,095
"Changes can be traumatic"?
He gave the damn orders.

396
00:28:38,135 --> 00:28:42,397
"You created my trauma",
That's what I should have told him, shit.

397
00:28:46,072 --> 00:28:48,288
Shit, Gifts.

398
00:28:48,328 --> 00:28:50,042
What did you want to achieve with that?

399
00:28:50,082 --> 00:28:54,095
It irritates me. Talk about peace and justice
and can't even tell the truth.

400
00:28:54,135 --> 00:28:58,063
- Do you want to throw a tantrum or...?
- I want to throw a tantrum.

401
00:28:58,103 --> 00:28:59,231
Shit.

402
00:29:01,445 --> 00:29:07,585
Some of us plan strategies
and we think about the next steps.

403
00:29:09,131 --> 00:29:13,768
If we want to send a message,
we must make a lot of noise.

404
00:29:16,023 --> 00:29:21,829
Some colleagues are organizing.
There is a meeting this afternoon. You should go.

405
00:29:23,124 --> 00:29:25,129
Will we do operations again?

406
00:29:26,007 --> 00:29:29,390
Well, talking gets us nowhere.

407
00:29:33,067 --> 00:29:34,320
I love you,

408
00:29:35,405 --> 00:29:37,954
but you're too old for this.

409
00:29:44,095 --> 00:29:45,097
Up to you.

410
00:29:47,185 --> 00:29:48,188
Good luck.

411
00:29:59,801 --> 00:30:00,971
Okay, let's go.

412
00:30:08,156 --> 00:30:10,288
<i>I was always a sensitive person.</i>

413
00:30:10,328 --> 00:30:16,761
Looking back, I notice that they asked me
act against my nature.

414
00:30:18,014 --> 00:30:21,105
I followed orders, I always obeyed.

415
00:30:21,690 --> 00:30:24,697
<i>I did what they asked me.</i>

416
00:30:30,838 --> 00:30:32,092
Shit.

417
00:30:33,762 --> 00:30:34,765
Shit.

418
00:30:41,615 --> 00:30:43,328
<i>And it's only a few years later...</i>

419
00:30:43,913 --> 00:30:46,545
<i>Well,
When you have time to reflect,</i>

420
00:30:48,174 --> 00:30:51,975
<i>you ask yourself the important questions
that you didn't do before.</i>

421
00:31:13,154 --> 00:31:14,157
Hello?

422
00:31:15,201 --> 00:31:16,204
Yes that's how it is.

423
00:31:19,420 --> 00:31:20,506
Hang on a minute.

424
00:31:22,887 --> 00:31:24,349
They think they found something.

425
00:31:26,814 --> 00:31:27,858
Sorry, continue.

426
00:31:29,404 --> 00:31:30,407
Yes.

427
00:31:32,412 --> 00:31:33,414
Aha.

428
00:31:34,750 --> 00:31:35,753
OK.

429
00:31:46,906 --> 00:31:48,034
Hello, Michael.

430
00:31:48,828 --> 00:31:49,873
Helen.

431
00:31:54,843 --> 00:31:55,846
Damn, is it Agnes?

432
00:32:02,654 --> 00:32:04,159
- Is everything okay, Archie?
- Yes.

433
00:32:05,286 --> 00:32:06,289
Seamus.

434
00:32:23,457 --> 00:32:29,140
- Are you still in the Government, Archie?
- Yes. I got a promotion.

435
00:32:29,180 --> 00:32:30,267
That's ok.

436
00:32:32,397 --> 00:32:35,448
Do you remember the day
that mom won at bingo?

437
00:32:35,488 --> 00:32:36,576
I don't remember it.

438
00:32:36,616 --> 00:32:38,540
Yes. Or is it not so, Helen?

439
00:32:38,580 --> 00:32:41,211
- Mom never won anything.
- You don't remember.

440
00:32:43,801 --> 00:32:47,059
I remember his tweed coat.

441
00:32:48,688 --> 00:32:50,862
I remember his pin.

442
00:32:50,902 --> 00:32:53,659
Yes. He had it on his lapel.

443
00:32:55,456 --> 00:32:56,418
What color was it?

444
00:32:56,458 --> 00:32:59,925
- Blue.
- Yes, light blue.

445
00:33:00,636 --> 00:33:02,474
At least we agreed on that.

446
00:33:07,444 --> 00:33:08,697
I keep wondering...

447
00:33:10,702 --> 00:33:12,374
if they hurt her.

448
00:33:13,669 --> 00:33:15,132
Before it happened.

449
00:33:15,172 --> 00:33:18,975
They said they interrogated her.
You'd admit anything for that.

450
00:33:19,015 --> 00:33:24,615
Yeah. All that shit about her being a snitch.

451
00:33:24,655 --> 00:33:27,578
They are lies.
He was with her at all times.

452
00:33:28,540 --> 00:33:33,470
What could I have told them
to the British? He never left the house.

453
00:33:33,510 --> 00:33:35,181
I tell you something:

454
00:33:36,393 --> 00:33:39,233
She thought of us before she died.

455
00:33:48,214 --> 00:33:49,718
I can feel it, I swear.

456
00:34:57,599 --> 00:34:58,602
Helen!

457
00:35:17,608 --> 00:35:21,117
- That's all? Is it over?
- They dug up half of the beach.

458
00:35:21,785 --> 00:35:23,623
All this shit is...

459
00:35:25,586 --> 00:35:27,718
The IRA mocked us.

460
00:35:29,179 --> 00:35:31,309
They're laughing at us now.

461
00:35:34,609 --> 00:35:36,614
What the fuck should we do now?

462
00:35:37,993 --> 00:35:39,372
I guess wait.

463
00:35:42,254 --> 00:35:44,637
<i>When do you think
that they will see their mother again?</i>

464
00:35:44,677 --> 00:35:46,517
The IRA threatens
for the bomber girls

465
00:35:46,557 --> 00:35:53,282
<i>We keep our fingers crossed
and we pray that he returns soon.</i>

466
00:35:53,784 --> 00:35:55,665
<i>The Irish Government promised him immunity</i>

467
00:35:55,705 --> 00:35:59,799
<i>to whomever provides information
about the whereabouts of the body...</i>

468
00:36:07,945 --> 00:36:08,947
Hello?

469
00:36:15,547 --> 00:36:16,510
Mother?

470
00:36:16,550 --> 00:36:18,011
Can I eat cereal?

471
00:36:18,513 --> 00:36:19,851
Gosh, Danny.

472
00:36:19,891 --> 00:36:21,438
You scared me.

473
00:36:21,479 --> 00:36:22,565
I'm sorry.

474
00:36:23,108 --> 00:36:25,489
Alright. Everything's fine. Come here.

475
00:36:53,937 --> 00:36:55,315
Well, how are you? Happens.

476
00:36:56,067 --> 00:36:58,573
- Thank you for having me.
- No problem.

477
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,593
Sorry for the mess.
I'm washing clothes.

478
00:37:07,638 --> 00:37:08,891
Alright.

479
00:37:09,559 --> 00:37:12,400
- Do you want a beer?
- Yes. Why not?

480
00:37:13,486 --> 00:37:16,119
- Glass or bottle?
- I prefer in a glass.

481
00:37:16,159 --> 00:37:17,663
I live in Dublin, you know?

482
00:37:19,334 --> 00:37:21,464
- How are you?
- I'm fine, yes.

483
00:37:22,759 --> 00:37:26,854
No, it's... It's this whole thing, you know?

484
00:37:26,894 --> 00:37:28,231
Peace and stuff.

485
00:37:29,526 --> 00:37:30,989
Yes, it's too much.

486
00:37:31,699 --> 00:37:33,119
It's really too much.

487
00:37:34,832 --> 00:37:36,837
I'm happy the killings stopped.

488
00:37:37,964 --> 00:37:42,687
It's just... Well,
everything is great, but...

489
00:37:42,727 --> 00:37:43,812
It's rotten.

490
00:37:45,024 --> 00:37:46,653
It's terribly rotten.

491
00:37:49,870 --> 00:37:53,838
Know?
I keep coming back to that time.

492
00:37:54,632 --> 00:37:57,347
- I think about operations and...
- Do you sleep well?

493
00:37:58,558 --> 00:37:59,561
From time to time.

494
00:38:00,856 --> 00:38:06,330
Most nights I'm left thinking
in what everything we did was for.

495
00:38:06,370 --> 00:38:09,505
It wasn't for nothing, Dolores.
It was for shit.

496
00:38:09,545 --> 00:38:12,678
- It's not even worth a death.
- Thank you.

497
00:38:13,513 --> 00:38:17,066
At last,
someone with the balls to admit it.

498
00:38:17,106 --> 00:38:20,533
I don't even blame the son of a bitch
to end the war.

499
00:38:20,573 --> 00:38:23,747
The deceptive way bothers me
in which everything was made.

500
00:38:25,042 --> 00:38:29,431
I ran an operation

501
00:38:29,471 --> 00:38:33,732
Which turned out to be a damn disaster, yeah?

502
00:38:33,773 --> 00:38:37,534
We had the idea
to plant 20 bombs in the city.

503
00:38:37,574 --> 00:38:40,206
- Bloody Friday.
- Bloody Friday.

504
00:38:41,083 --> 00:38:43,508
We set the bombs
and we called to warn them.

505
00:38:43,548 --> 00:38:47,642
we were sitting
and we started to hear the explosions.

506
00:38:52,988 --> 00:38:56,372
And everyone was celebrating, but I thought:

507
00:38:57,375 --> 00:38:59,756
"Well, they sound very close together."

508
00:39:00,758 --> 00:39:03,975
Know?
The explosions sound too close together.

509
00:39:05,395 --> 00:39:06,398
And I knew it.

510
00:39:08,570 --> 00:39:11,578
I knew that many people were going to die that day.

511
00:39:13,039 --> 00:39:14,042
Seven.

512
00:39:14,711 --> 00:39:16,006
There were nine.

513
00:39:17,342 --> 00:39:18,762
Nine.

514
00:39:19,764 --> 00:39:23,024
And Gerry didn't plan it,
but he was the commander.

515
00:39:23,065 --> 00:39:27,035
I could have stopped everything.
And now he says he was never in the IRA.

516
00:39:27,075 --> 00:39:30,584
- It's disgusting.
- It's selfish, Dolores.

517
00:39:32,130 --> 00:39:38,395
It is selfish because it means
that you and I must carry everything.

518
00:39:40,067 --> 00:39:42,155
With all the responsibilities.

519
00:39:42,657 --> 00:39:43,619
Exactly.

520
00:39:43,659 --> 00:39:45,998
He wasn't there, he didn't do it and we did.

521
00:39:47,460 --> 00:39:50,050
We are responsible for all deaths.

522
00:39:51,387 --> 00:39:55,648
And I imagine
that Gerry was trying to stop us?

523
00:40:01,997 --> 00:40:04,503
- Have you ever thought about...?
- In what?

524
00:40:07,302 --> 00:40:11,982
In making it public. In telling people
what really happened.

525
00:40:12,022 --> 00:40:15,866
No, I couldn't.

526
00:40:17,035 --> 00:40:18,037
Me neither.

527
00:40:34,370 --> 00:40:38,590
There's a guy I chat with.
I was in prison with him.

528
00:40:39,467 --> 00:40:42,475
You saw him once at the Felons Club.
His name is Mackers.

529
00:40:43,310 --> 00:40:47,446
He has an oral history project.
It's confidential. Recorded on tape.

530
00:40:49,158 --> 00:40:50,411
And what did you tell him?

531
00:40:56,343 --> 00:40:57,680
I told him everything.

532
00:40:58,306 --> 00:41:00,019
- All?
- Yes.

533
00:41:01,189 --> 00:41:02,569
It's like going to confession.

534
00:41:02,609 --> 00:41:04,154
Except you can drink.

535
00:41:04,991 --> 00:41:08,334
- Damn, Brendan. Is it safe?
- It is totally safe.

536
00:41:08,374 --> 00:41:11,465
No one will hear it until you're dead.
That's the deal.

537
00:41:15,894 --> 00:41:17,814
And you talked about Gerry?

538
00:41:19,611 --> 00:41:21,282
Maybe I said a few things.

539
00:41:22,577 --> 00:41:23,914
It must have felt good.

540
00:41:26,127 --> 00:41:27,840
It felt fantastic.

541
00:41:38,158 --> 00:41:39,828
Are you sure they didn't follow you?

542
00:41:40,330 --> 00:41:42,168
No. I was careful.

543
00:41:48,393 --> 00:41:50,731
Can they arrest me for what I tell you?

544
00:41:52,361 --> 00:41:54,324
I would prefer not to go back to prison.

545
00:41:54,951 --> 00:41:56,331
You have total protection.

546
00:41:56,371 --> 00:41:58,836
We are a private project
from Boston University.

547
00:41:59,546 --> 00:42:04,349
The tapes are hidden
in a vault on campus.

548
00:42:06,647 --> 00:42:08,317
No one will hear them but me.

549
00:42:08,902 --> 00:42:10,490
Until I'm dead, right?

550
00:42:11,242 --> 00:42:12,244
That's how it is.

551
00:42:14,166 --> 00:42:15,754
And you're still a young woman.

552
00:42:38,185 --> 00:42:40,691
You're doing a very brave thing, Dolores.

553
00:42:41,653 --> 00:42:44,994
You're giving people access.
to our real history.

554
00:42:46,707 --> 00:42:51,302
Future generations
They will know what really happened thanks to you.

555
00:42:52,346 --> 00:42:54,936
That's ok. It's nice.

556
00:43:15,029 --> 00:43:17,160
What did you find? What's that?

557
00:43:36,541 --> 00:43:37,544
Heavens!

558
00:43:42,683 --> 00:43:44,938
The remains belong to a woman.

559
00:44:00,729 --> 00:44:03,067
- Was she wearing a cardigan?
- No.

560
00:44:04,070 --> 00:44:05,072
Was there a pin?

561
00:44:06,910 --> 00:44:08,164
Did it have a pin?

562
00:44:08,665 --> 00:44:09,667
A pin?

563
00:44:10,420 --> 00:44:15,349
Like a diaper pin.
It should be under the flap.

564
00:44:45,342 --> 00:44:48,391
Alright. OK? We found it.

565
00:44:49,519 --> 00:44:50,521
<i>We found it.</i>

566
00:44:51,816 --> 00:44:52,818
<i>Yes.</i>

567
00:44:55,534 --> 00:44:57,164
I knew I was on that beach.

568
00:45:04,474 --> 00:45:05,687
He's very friendly, ma.

569
00:45:05,727 --> 00:45:07,775
Yes, it's very nice,

570
00:45:07,815 --> 00:45:10,907
but if you want to keep it, release some.

571
00:45:35,803 --> 00:45:37,808
POLICE

572
00:45:45,035 --> 00:45:46,121
Okay.

573
00:45:47,499 --> 00:45:52,094
We found a bullet at the base of the skull.
And two more close to where he fell.

574
00:45:53,347 --> 00:45:58,193
Well, we would like to press charges,
But the guilty have immunity, right?

575
00:45:58,695 --> 00:45:59,740
That was the deal.

576
00:45:59,780 --> 00:46:03,373
They would have immunity if the IRA
It would have helped us discover the body.

577
00:46:04,668 --> 00:46:08,720
His mother was found by a civilian.
Now it's a murder case.

578
00:46:10,057 --> 00:46:13,148
31 years have passed.
I can't hope anymore.

579
00:46:14,693 --> 00:46:18,035
- Is there a chance of finding the murderer?
- Depends.

580
00:46:18,536 --> 00:46:21,920
forensic science
It doesn't help much in these old cases.

581
00:46:22,505 --> 00:46:23,633
Someone must speak.

582
00:46:34,411 --> 00:46:35,413
She was a driver.

583
00:46:36,332 --> 00:46:39,339
I was crossing the border, but you already know that.

584
00:46:41,344 --> 00:46:44,937
He had explosives and weapons.

585
00:46:46,942 --> 00:46:48,237
<i>I also transported people.</i>

586
00:46:49,657 --> 00:46:51,077
<i>He collected them.</i>

587
00:46:52,372 --> 00:46:54,545
Sometimes they knew where they were going.

588
00:46:57,218 --> 00:46:58,597
Sometimes not.

589
00:47:01,228 --> 00:47:04,737
But my job was to deliver them
to the men on the other side...

590
00:47:07,369 --> 00:47:08,873
where they would be executed.

591
00:47:10,669 --> 00:47:12,256
The families were never told.

592
00:47:14,805 --> 00:47:16,601
Are you talking about the Disappeared?

593
00:47:17,186 --> 00:47:18,188
Yes.

594
00:47:18,773 --> 00:47:22,699
Dolores, can I ask you a question?

595
00:47:23,284 --> 00:47:24,287
Of course.

596
00:47:25,122 --> 00:47:27,546
Will we talk about Jean McConville?

597
00:47:36,777 --> 00:47:39,076
Gerry Adams has always denied
having been a member of the IRA

598
00:47:39,116 --> 00:47:41,165
or have been part of the violence
related to this.

599
00:47:41,205 --> 00:47:44,296
He also denied being involved.
in the murder of Jean McConville.
